Dod Bahrain soz, GP Borain
#1
Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:46 PM
Danny is currently playing: FIFA, & a bit of MW2!
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
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#2
Posted 14 March 2010 - 09:04 PM
#3
Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:45 PM
> Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky ~ Ojibwe
#4
Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:48 PM

Kimi Raikkonen: It is the same thing that I said before. I have no interest in driving for a bad team next year. If I race here, I always try to finish as high as I can. I don't need anything to motivate me. If I drive, I drive to do my best and that is it.
jemstride:
"I get the feeling that Alonso fans tend to heap over-praise on Alonso and bring down Kimi whenever they can, with mere theories and unjustified statements."
I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements
Lewis Hamilton:
I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
You've got to be on the limit all the time - and I love that, because that's how I love to race.
#5
Posted 15 March 2010 - 12:54 AM
Close second - Alonso - nice move on Massa at the start - solid performance.
#6
Posted 15 March 2010 - 01:11 AM
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
MOVE OVER MOVE OVER? TEAM ORDERS OUTLAW
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#7
Posted 15 March 2010 - 01:30 AM
AleHop, on 15 March 2010 - 01:11 AM, said:
I'm not debating your choice (I would have picked Alonso too if we had multiple choices), but I am curious as to what fastest lap actually means this season.
Since the cars are getting lighter throughout the race, it occurs to me that fastest lap simply indicates who can be arsed to pull a pointless flyer in the last few laps.
#8
Posted 15 March 2010 - 02:08 AM
adamstrags, on 15 March 2010 - 01:30 AM, said:
Since the cars are getting lighter throughout the race, it occurs to me that fastest lap simply indicates who can be arsed to pull a pointless flyer in the last few laps.
Not so pointless since Felipe was at 1,5 s behind Nando when they catched Vettel and 5 laps later the gap was 9 s detroying Felipe´s hopes.
I voted for Vettel but I think Nando and Vettel deserved the DOD tittle. Just look at what Webber did. Massa was close but Nando outclassed him.
The rest were to busy thinking on tyre degradation.
#9
Posted 15 March 2010 - 02:33 AM
#10
Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:11 AM
adamstrags, on 15 March 2010 - 01:30 AM, said:
Since the cars are getting lighter throughout the race, it occurs to me that fastest lap simply indicates who can be arsed to pull a pointless flyer in the last few laps.
Fastest lap means the same this season. Not much.
The real meaning of a fastest lap depends on the actual circumstances of the race, the driver, the tyres, etc. Most of the fastest laps in the past were scored in the last few laps of the race, when the track is well rubbered, and there were no need for it.
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
MOVE OVER MOVE OVER? TEAM ORDERS OUTLAW
F3000 CRACKS UNDER PRESSURE HISTORIA ALONSITO BULLET TRAIN ITALIA 458 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
#11
Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:12 AM
Respect for the young/old guys in their new rides. They obviously gave their best.
Time is a good healer, but a lousy beautician.
If there's one thing you can say about mankind, there's nothing kind about man
(Tom Waits - Misery Is The River Of The World)
She said she'd never seen someone so lost, I said I'd never felt so found
(The Good Life - Album Of The Year)
How to shine like California when your heart feels like Detroit
(Woodface - White Light To You)
#12
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:58 AM
Argento Reloaded, on 15 March 2010 - 02:08 AM, said:
I see what you're getting at, but I'm not entirely convinced - To me, it was just luck that he had to push like that near the end of the race - just fortunate timing. Not that I don't respect his driving to pull away, but many drivers did that through the race, he just did it last (when he was lighter).
Jean Todt, on 15 March 2010 - 02:33 AM, said:
I didn't know Sutil was second fastest - hmm.
AleHop, on 15 March 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:
The real meaning of a fastest lap depends on the actual circumstances of the race, the driver, the tyres, etc. Most of the fastest laps in the past were scored in the last few laps of the race, when the track is well rubbered, and there were no need for it.
I agree - circumstance is everything when looking at the fastest lap. It can either be impressive, or pointless.
I do think a lot of fastest laps last season were set at the end of 1st and 2nd stints rather than just at the end of the race though. Strategy required drivers to put in some fast laps in order to jump their opponents during stops and they were light enough on fuel to get a fastest lap during 2 or 3 periods a race (not just 1, like now).
This season there isn't any strategy to talk of (another thing I forecast when we heard there wouldbn't be refueling), and so the lap times will tend to just drop off as the race goes on.
Fastest lap will be another feather in the cap (as it often was before), but this season it will be completely meaningless rather than just fairly meaningless.
#13
Posted 15 March 2010 - 06:12 AM
That race was absolute pants - it doesn't even merit real blasphemy.
#14
Posted 15 March 2010 - 06:33 AM
#15
Posted 15 March 2010 - 07:27 AM

Music connects people through the unspoken appreciation of something that sounds right. Something that taps into the deepest corners of your soul, making you feel alive. When someone else gets it too and you know they do, it feels beautiful.
#16
Posted 15 March 2010 - 07:44 AM
I was shocked and appalled at how god awful this race was!
#17
Posted 15 March 2010 - 07:47 AM
Ben, on 15 March 2010 - 07:44 AM, said:
I was shocked and appalled at how god awful this race was!
good to see you back...
well, I might fear losing you again after such a boring race
#18
Posted 15 March 2010 - 08:57 AM
Obviously Kubica. Only one who did any overtaking of any note.
Adeus
#19
Posted 15 March 2010 - 09:17 AM
What? Wrong sport....sorry....those three compete in this new fangled sport called MOTOR RACING. It's pretty neat. Cars going fast. Cars crashing. Guys passing and getting passed and then passing again. And this guy called Sato that likes T-bones.....all that action sure beats that parade thingee motor gymkhana thing that was on in the desert. Did anyone see that camel race going on in the background?

#20
Posted 15 March 2010 - 10:15 AM

#21
Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:39 PM
Argento Reloaded, on 15 March 2010 - 02:08 AM, said:
I voted for Vettel but I think Nando and Vettel deserved the DOD tittle. Just look at what Webber did. Massa was close but Nando outclassed him.
The rest were to busy thinking on tyre degradation.
In Massa's defence, there was talk that he had some kind of aero problem during the race. Not than I can be bothered to look up a relevant news article on that
> Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky ~ Ojibwe
#22
Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:55 PM
Nivola, on 15 March 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:
I think it was a temperature problem for the last 25-30 laps. I heard it was engine related.
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
MOVE OVER MOVE OVER? TEAM ORDERS OUTLAW
F3000 CRACKS UNDER PRESSURE HISTORIA ALONSITO BULLET TRAIN ITALIA 458 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
#23
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:05 PM
AleHop, on 15 March 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:
That sounds about right yeah. Although I doubt it would have made much difference in terms of position if he hadn't had the issue, Alonso's opening pass was crucial.
> Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky ~ Ojibwe
#24
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:22 PM
Nivola, on 15 March 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:
I heard Alonso would have passed Massa with that problem anyway. He was happy he managed to finish 2nd.
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
MOVE OVER MOVE OVER? TEAM ORDERS OUTLAW
F3000 CRACKS UNDER PRESSURE HISTORIA ALONSITO BULLET TRAIN ITALIA 458 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
#25
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:27 PM
AleHop, on 15 March 2010 - 01:11 AM, said:
Danny is currently playing: FIFA, & a bit of MW2!
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
OMGGT5
#26
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:35 PM
AleHop, on 15 March 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:
It was an overheating problem, which they tried to fix with a "richer" fuel mix, thus increasing fuel consumption...that meant he was forced to pull back to save some fuel for the latest stages. All things considered, Massa's pace was on pair with Nando's as long as the car allowed him. The only actual difference between them both was the crucial first corner, and there it was a mix of a situational issue (Alonso confirmed that the clean side was much better for a starting position) and a beautifully performed overtaking manoeuvre from Nando (I also think that Massa wasn't that great at defending his position, either). Alonso won this battle, but just barely so. I hope to see many more coming, all on track, and hopefully the next ones should last longer than just one corner.
Time is a good healer, but a lousy beautician.
If there's one thing you can say about mankind, there's nothing kind about man
(Tom Waits - Misery Is The River Of The World)
She said she'd never seen someone so lost, I said I'd never felt so found
(The Good Life - Album Of The Year)
How to shine like California when your heart feels like Detroit
(Woodface - White Light To You)
#28
Posted 15 March 2010 - 08:24 PM
Quiet One, on 15 March 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:
I totally agree with you.
It was very important for Alonso to win that first battle. And luckily he managed to win his first GP in Ferrari which is the start of the season he had dreamed. Now we have 18 long and winding races ahead where anything can happen.
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
MOVE OVER MOVE OVER? TEAM ORDERS OUTLAW
F3000 CRACKS UNDER PRESSURE HISTORIA ALONSITO BULLET TRAIN ITALIA 458 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
#29
Posted 16 March 2010 - 12:32 AM
Quiet One, on 15 March 2010 - 03:12 AM, said:
Respect for the young/old guys in their new rides. They obviously gave their best.
Ditto- thanks for saving me time posting - you said what I thought EAXACTLY.
#30
Posted 16 March 2010 - 12:35 AM
freaky2, on 15 March 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:
Somehow, I think I understood... Kubica's pass on de la Rosa was second best of the race (wait, were there ANY other passes???) but on par with Laonso on Massa.

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